Going a big rubbery one
Another old one, because I can't think of much else to do, and I have been too busy. I am working myself to the creative bone. Not really, but someday the end will come and I will feel like I should have posted more.
What?
IT'S IN REVELATIONS PEOPLE!!!!
Originally writen 2/6/04
As I watched most of ESPN on my day off, I watched about the ruling of Maurice Clarret, who has just broken a barrier which allows him to enter the NFL earlier. I have a few opposing opinions of my own on this. 1. He should be allowed to go if he wants.(mainly because every MLB is going to be foaming at the mouth to knock him hard once he gets past the front D line). 2. It is wrong, because the college football game is the main reason why the NFL is the most even playing field, the hype is created over 2-4 years against game opponents. For every LeBron or Moses Malone who can jump from high school to the pros, there are numerous others who fall by the wayside (there was a MTV true life where a kid skipped college for the draft, and
didn't make it. Almost a near comedy of errors), or a case like Darius Miles (seemingly endless talent, but no form to his game that college instills).
(Also, I hate this mainly because half of the rappers in the world--particuarly those who wear jerseys out of season-- have used the line "jumping from high school right into da pros) echk.
This story has dominated many a sports news day for the last year plus, and likely will do so further. I mean, maybe the ruling is correct, but it's kind of sickening when you think of the root cause. When someone mentions this in the same breath as Jackie Robinson, I just want to pull of my belt and whip the hell out of them. I mean, above all, Maurice Clarret and every other person of his stead is motivated by greed, not by froming a legacy.
However, on Espn classic, they were showing the Miracle on Ice. It's about as pure as a sports moment gets. It reminds you why you even care somedays. And because I have gone on this one before, I'll just say I watched it and couldn't help but be moved.
which brings us to this list.
Top moments in movies that men cry at.
First off, a (straight) man crying is as rare as they get. I mean, women cry any time they feel it's ok (breakups, weddings, stubbing their tow, parking tickets, bad meals, etc.) It really takes an outside influence for men to cry. I saw my father bury his dad, and hold back the tears. In fact the only times I have ever seen my father cry was when my parents split, and then it was mainly because all of his kids were in tears, his second wedding, and when we watched an episode of ER.
I expected the first two. I mean, it takes a villian to not cry when your kids are in tears and you are the cause and not to hurt. And with a wedding, I mean, if Moe Syzlack cries, then you better believe anyone will. (note: men can cry at their own weddings, not at their friends, it's just a line)
but the third, it was the episode "love's labor lost" where a doctor loses a patient in a gut-wrenching fashion. It's just brutal. And at the end, I looked over in the dark to the other couch to see my father shedding a few. He never talks about his work as a doctor unless you really pry at him, because he has to bury it. This is one of the few times I have ever seen him be overpowered. And it makes me admire the man all the more.
So, after the personal sidebar to put things into perspective:
The top moments in film that just tend to level men and make them cry, if even for a little.
7. E.T. Low on this list because it's not exactly a male moment, and it takes a fucking robot not to weep. But for every man who remembers losing a friend as a boy, it just takes you back. (whether it be a dog, a friend moving away, or the like it just brings up hard memories) By the end of the movie, they are tears of joy, and relief, but when ET kicks it originally while Elliot can only watch, it's just awful.
6. Good Will Hunting. At the end, when Robin Williams keeps telling Matt Damon that "It's not your fault" I know more than a few guys who couldn't take it. I actually was never really that moved by this scene, as I never was abused (though given my wise mouth and slacking off, I probably deserved one or two sharp punches to the arm). But for those I know who were treated bad, this one is a moment.
5. Terminator 2. When Arnold looks at a decimated John and says "I know now why you cry" it gets a little dusty in the room. Then, when he is lowered into the pit, and puts his thumb up, I mean its just over man.
4. Field of Dreams - It's just that it's baseball, and he gets to see everyone he ever wanted to, and then he plays catch with his estranged father. I mean catch. It's just so sacred to men, women could never understand.
3. Braveheart. Two moments:
a. Watching the executioner allow Wallace to "speak a word." And then instead of yelling for mercy, he just yells out freedom.
b. The final battle. Robert the bruce is about to walk out to accept a title that won't be honored, he instead looks at the band that Wallace formed and beeseches them: "you have bled with Wallace. Now bleed with me." And THEN, the big redhead draws out Wallace's giant sword and heaves onto the battle ground with a yell for the ages set to bagpipes. Capped off by Wallace's narration about "warrior poets," it's fantastic.
2. The Lord Of the Rings. A few of the choice selections.
a. Sam's last reminisces in the lava remains of Mount Doom. "Rosie Cotton, dancin'. She had ribbons in her hair. If ever I were to marry someone, it would've been her. It would've been her."
b. The gray havens and Sam's final line. "well, I'm back"
c. At the crowning of Aragorn, when the four hobbits are about to curtsey to the new king. "My friends. You bow to no one."
d. Sam and Frodo on Mt. Doom:
Sam: It'll be Spring back in the Shire, and the fields will be blossoming, and the birds'll be nesting, and they'll be planting the summer barley in the lower fields, and they'll be eating the first of the strawberries with cream. Do you remember the taste of strawberries, Mr. Frodo?
Frodo: No, Sam. I can't recall the taste of food, nor the sound of water, nor the touch of grass. I'm naked in the dark. There's nothing--no veil between me and the wheel of fire. I can see him with my waking eyes.
Sam: Then let us be rid of it. I can't carry the ring for you, but I can
carry you.
e.
Frodo: I can't do this Sam.
Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding on to Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.
This last one just levels me every time I watch it. It's my favorite scene in the whole trilogy, bar none. From the allusions to change and the sun shining brighter, to the nod about the stories, to that final line, it's everything noble and heroic and grand about the books and movies summed up in one answer to why.
1. Tie Saving Private Ryan and Band of brothers
Saving Private Ryan - Between Hank's line "earn it," Upham's character climax and then an old Private Ryan ask his wife to tell him he's been a good man, that he's lived a great life, it's just every reason boys play with GI Joes. For valor, for heroism, and to do the right thing. And then Old Glory waves, and it's just unfair.
Band of Brothers. Three scenes.
a. Spears uniting the lines in episode 7. For a work that didn't play up the heroism or treat these guys as super heroes, to watch a man do the unthinkable and go thru enemy fire to pretty much single handedly win this battle, it's such an emotional release that it just amazes you.
b. The troop playing baseball to end the series. It's baseball, it's American soldiers, and it's the best ending you could ever imagine.
c. Watching the real Dick Winters relate a story about his grandson. He says: "my grandson asked me the other day, 'grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' I told him no, but I served with a bunch of heroes."
What?
IT'S IN REVELATIONS PEOPLE!!!!
Originally writen 2/6/04
As I watched most of ESPN on my day off, I watched about the ruling of Maurice Clarret, who has just broken a barrier which allows him to enter the NFL earlier. I have a few opposing opinions of my own on this. 1. He should be allowed to go if he wants.(mainly because every MLB is going to be foaming at the mouth to knock him hard once he gets past the front D line). 2. It is wrong, because the college football game is the main reason why the NFL is the most even playing field, the hype is created over 2-4 years against game opponents. For every LeBron or Moses Malone who can jump from high school to the pros, there are numerous others who fall by the wayside (there was a MTV true life where a kid skipped college for the draft, and
didn't make it. Almost a near comedy of errors), or a case like Darius Miles (seemingly endless talent, but no form to his game that college instills).
(Also, I hate this mainly because half of the rappers in the world--particuarly those who wear jerseys out of season-- have used the line "jumping from high school right into da pros) echk.
This story has dominated many a sports news day for the last year plus, and likely will do so further. I mean, maybe the ruling is correct, but it's kind of sickening when you think of the root cause. When someone mentions this in the same breath as Jackie Robinson, I just want to pull of my belt and whip the hell out of them. I mean, above all, Maurice Clarret and every other person of his stead is motivated by greed, not by froming a legacy.
However, on Espn classic, they were showing the Miracle on Ice. It's about as pure as a sports moment gets. It reminds you why you even care somedays. And because I have gone on this one before, I'll just say I watched it and couldn't help but be moved.
which brings us to this list.
Top moments in movies that men cry at.
First off, a (straight) man crying is as rare as they get. I mean, women cry any time they feel it's ok (breakups, weddings, stubbing their tow, parking tickets, bad meals, etc.) It really takes an outside influence for men to cry. I saw my father bury his dad, and hold back the tears. In fact the only times I have ever seen my father cry was when my parents split, and then it was mainly because all of his kids were in tears, his second wedding, and when we watched an episode of ER.
I expected the first two. I mean, it takes a villian to not cry when your kids are in tears and you are the cause and not to hurt. And with a wedding, I mean, if Moe Syzlack cries, then you better believe anyone will. (note: men can cry at their own weddings, not at their friends, it's just a line)
but the third, it was the episode "love's labor lost" where a doctor loses a patient in a gut-wrenching fashion. It's just brutal. And at the end, I looked over in the dark to the other couch to see my father shedding a few. He never talks about his work as a doctor unless you really pry at him, because he has to bury it. This is one of the few times I have ever seen him be overpowered. And it makes me admire the man all the more.
So, after the personal sidebar to put things into perspective:
The top moments in film that just tend to level men and make them cry, if even for a little.
7. E.T. Low on this list because it's not exactly a male moment, and it takes a fucking robot not to weep. But for every man who remembers losing a friend as a boy, it just takes you back. (whether it be a dog, a friend moving away, or the like it just brings up hard memories) By the end of the movie, they are tears of joy, and relief, but when ET kicks it originally while Elliot can only watch, it's just awful.
6. Good Will Hunting. At the end, when Robin Williams keeps telling Matt Damon that "It's not your fault" I know more than a few guys who couldn't take it. I actually was never really that moved by this scene, as I never was abused (though given my wise mouth and slacking off, I probably deserved one or two sharp punches to the arm). But for those I know who were treated bad, this one is a moment.
5. Terminator 2. When Arnold looks at a decimated John and says "I know now why you cry" it gets a little dusty in the room. Then, when he is lowered into the pit, and puts his thumb up, I mean its just over man.
4. Field of Dreams - It's just that it's baseball, and he gets to see everyone he ever wanted to, and then he plays catch with his estranged father. I mean catch. It's just so sacred to men, women could never understand.
3. Braveheart. Two moments:
a. Watching the executioner allow Wallace to "speak a word." And then instead of yelling for mercy, he just yells out freedom.
b. The final battle. Robert the bruce is about to walk out to accept a title that won't be honored, he instead looks at the band that Wallace formed and beeseches them: "you have bled with Wallace. Now bleed with me." And THEN, the big redhead draws out Wallace's giant sword and heaves onto the battle ground with a yell for the ages set to bagpipes. Capped off by Wallace's narration about "warrior poets," it's fantastic.
2. The Lord Of the Rings. A few of the choice selections.
a. Sam's last reminisces in the lava remains of Mount Doom. "Rosie Cotton, dancin'. She had ribbons in her hair. If ever I were to marry someone, it would've been her. It would've been her."
b. The gray havens and Sam's final line. "well, I'm back"
c. At the crowning of Aragorn, when the four hobbits are about to curtsey to the new king. "My friends. You bow to no one."
d. Sam and Frodo on Mt. Doom:
Sam: It'll be Spring back in the Shire, and the fields will be blossoming, and the birds'll be nesting, and they'll be planting the summer barley in the lower fields, and they'll be eating the first of the strawberries with cream. Do you remember the taste of strawberries, Mr. Frodo?
Frodo: No, Sam. I can't recall the taste of food, nor the sound of water, nor the touch of grass. I'm naked in the dark. There's nothing--no veil between me and the wheel of fire. I can see him with my waking eyes.
Sam: Then let us be rid of it. I can't carry the ring for you, but I can
carry you.
e.
Frodo: I can't do this Sam.
Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding on to Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.
This last one just levels me every time I watch it. It's my favorite scene in the whole trilogy, bar none. From the allusions to change and the sun shining brighter, to the nod about the stories, to that final line, it's everything noble and heroic and grand about the books and movies summed up in one answer to why.
1. Tie Saving Private Ryan and Band of brothers
Saving Private Ryan - Between Hank's line "earn it," Upham's character climax and then an old Private Ryan ask his wife to tell him he's been a good man, that he's lived a great life, it's just every reason boys play with GI Joes. For valor, for heroism, and to do the right thing. And then Old Glory waves, and it's just unfair.
Band of Brothers. Three scenes.
a. Spears uniting the lines in episode 7. For a work that didn't play up the heroism or treat these guys as super heroes, to watch a man do the unthinkable and go thru enemy fire to pretty much single handedly win this battle, it's such an emotional release that it just amazes you.
b. The troop playing baseball to end the series. It's baseball, it's American soldiers, and it's the best ending you could ever imagine.
c. Watching the real Dick Winters relate a story about his grandson. He says: "my grandson asked me the other day, 'grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' I told him no, but I served with a bunch of heroes."
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